I agree. I think our friend Farkel has a low tolerance for incompetent thinking, and he takes it to an extreme. He's running out of time, just like the rest of us, but he understands it better than we do and his sense of urgency is different. Crotchety old blister for sure.
Lion Cask
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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What I think the next move is...
by TheJigsUp ini'll keep it short.. you're no doubt aware of the 'if the gb say something that seems odd, just go along with it' thing.
and the 'do as the gb tell you!
dont doubt the gb!
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Starting Jan 1st 2012 we will no longer focus on gathering in new sheep. Our focus will be on keeping the flock strong, united and ready for the great day of Armegedon. We know Jehovah's day is near and we need to gear up and prepare for the Great Tribulation. The time is now and we have little time to help others see the truth and save them from sure death....
And then the end of the WTS will be in sight. Not going to happen unless the GB is a bunch of blithering fools.
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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Pearls before swine, Farkel?
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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If I remember correctly, possibly not, Hawkings believed the universe was slowing down. Something which today has been disproven. Either way, things change. "New light" is not something limited to the JWs alone. Science is always moving forward and much of what is believed today will likely be disproved tomorrow.
You're half right. It was Friedmann who postulated that the universe was expanding sufficiently slowly that at some point or another gravitational attraction would take over causing the expansion to stop and bringing about a gradual collapse of the universe back into a singularity. And then, of course, the Big Bang would happen again and start the whole process all over again. Interesting theory, but Hawking's take on it is much more interesting. And things (Truth) don't change. The understanding of things changes. The difference between "New Light" and the evolution of scientific understanding is the former always comes on when something turns out not to be the Truth after all, and the latter when an exception to an established theory is found and proven. There is a world of difference between the two and they cannot, in all rationality, be equated.
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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If there is a God he I would think views time in the same way.
Not possible, unless you dismiss relativity theory.
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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Sorry, I thought we were talking about relativity and time, and your original question.
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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Begin here, BOTR. Relativity is all about what different observers see. That is the key understanding. Hawking talks about a ping pong ball bouncing up and down on a single spot on a table on a moving train. To an observer on the train, the ping pong ball will have moved only short vertical distances but to an observer on the ground looking through the windows of the passing train, the ping pong ball will be moving in gentle, elongated arcs and the time the ball is airborne above the table will be perceived as longer. The two observers are moving relative to one another and will assign different times and positions to the same event. No particular observer’s measurements are any more correct than any other observer’s, but all the measurements are related. Neither time nor space is therefore constant.
To your question, God (if He exists) does not keep time because time is relative to who is observing it and from where. If God is ubiquitous, He will perceive time on a scale of zero to infinity. He would see the pingpong ball on the train bouncing up and down and He would see it frozen for all eternity in one place. Time, therefore, does not exist for God.
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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Yes, Tammy. A Brief History of Time, alluded to earlier on this thread. You need not surrender anything you believe in but reading it will greatly improve your understanding of, amongst other things, relativity theory and the combined dimension of space and time.
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What I think the next move is...
by TheJigsUp ini'll keep it short.. you're no doubt aware of the 'if the gb say something that seems odd, just go along with it' thing.
and the 'do as the gb tell you!
dont doubt the gb!
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Lion Cask
No, I don't think the doors will be closed. More likely the next big move will be some test of faith designed to consolidate the GB's power and frighten the rank and file into submission, coupled with a big drive like what happened just before 1975. Not fewer members, more members.
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Does God Keep Time or is Time a Human Construct?
by Band on the Run ini was watching oz re-runs on hbo.
everyone is prepping for a major prison riot.
apocalyptic scenes are shown.
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Lion Cask
Have you read Hawking, Tammy?